We’re doing this punkradiocast do-hickey now, so we did a special on Canadian hardcore (and Canadian punk and one Canadian metal) for them. The
We’re doing this punkradiocast do-hickey now, so we did a special on Canadian hardcore (and Canadian punk and one Canadian metal) for them. The first show airs Monday night at 5PM. And yes, we’re still on Viva-Radio. Check Contributors for “Street Carnage + 1.”
We couldn’t find anyone in New York who gives a shit about bands like S.C.U.M. and Honest Injun so we went over to the taco truck and asked Curtis. He’s the singer for Bad Wizard and they’re HUGE in Canada.
His verdict: Canadian hardcore is just a bad rip off of American hardcore. In fact, Curtis argues, all world hardcore is just various bands trying to be American.
We should have steered the argument towards punk. America is hard to beat in a “Who owns hardcore?” discussion but “Who owns punk?” would have to go to Britain. Can anyone argue bands like Dead Kennedys and fucking US Bombs can hold a candle to the likes of Crass, Conflict, Discharge, GBH, The Stranglers, The Undertones, Generation X, 999, Vice Squad, Peter & the Test Tube Babies, Anti-Nowhere League, UK Subhumans, Oi Polloi, Blitz, The Business, Cockney Rejects, Sham 69, Angelic Upstarts, Rudimentary Peni, The Boomtown Rats, The Buzzcocks, and The Exploited? We know the Ramones started everything but that was only the beginning. Besides, half the time we listen to them the Ramones just sound like a drunk 50s cover band.
Anyway, we didn’t say any of that because Curits has been to jail and we’re scared of him. Despite all the intimidation and fear however, this turned out to be a great show and it gives Canadian hardcore the credit it deserves. The only flaw in the whole thing is where Derrick and I wedge our own 80s hardcore bands into the playlist. My band Anal Chinook were completely useless, and my second band Leatherassbutfuk were even worse. Derrick’s first band Fumblekin were only about 15% better.
HERE IT IS…
Intro “I am not a Canadian”
This is a hilarious parody of the Molson Canadian “I am Canadian” ads. In it, a Quebecois bonhomme explains why he has nothing to do with Caca-Canada (that’s what they call it – mean eh?)
(former Doug H Boy Cummins)
S.c.u.m. “Pool Hunt” (Montreal hardcore)
Genetic Control “Suburban Life” (Montreal punk)
Doughboys “Tradition” (Montreal emo)
FACTOIDS: 1) The C.U.M. or Communauté Urbaine de Montréal was the name for downtown Montreal so these dudes added an S and made our whole city Scum. 2) The singer was a colored person like Derrick is today. 3) Their song “Pool Hunt” kind of supports Curtis’ theory about Candians ripping off Americans because there is no way Montreallers were scoping out abandoned pools to go skate. 4) Genetic Control were another Montreal hardcore band and they were playing shows as recently as a few years ago. 5) Doughboys singer John Kastner was always a dork but guitarist Jonathan Cummins is a good pal of ours and Derrick lived with him for 1.5 years. 6) Curtis’ band Bad Wizard toured with Cummins’ band Bionic across Canada several times. We didn’t know Curtis knew Cummins until way after they had become lovers.
(Me with Anal Chinook back in 1989)
Anal Chinook “Acid Rain” (Ottawa punk)
Fumblekin “Sick Man” (Toronto hardcore)
Grave Concern “Obstacle” (Ottawa hardcore)
Honest Injun “Fatherland America” (Ottawa punk)
(Derrick sang for Fumblekin, Black Jello and Bliss. This was Black Jello)
FACTOIDS: 1) Anal Chinook opened for Dayglo Abortions once and they liked us so much they named a song after us. Well, they liked our NAME so much. 2) Fumblekin were from North Toronto AKA North York City so all their flyers would say “Fumblekin from NYC.” That lead to a lot of disappointed people with funny hair. 3) Though Curtis insists Grave Concern were just a DRI cover band, he had only heard one track. Here’s another one and it sounds nothing like DRI…
(Forgotten Rebels 1977 “Nazi” video)
The Viletones “I’m a Rebel” (Toronto 70s punk)
Forgotten Rebels “Fuck me Dead” (Toronto 70s punk)
The Demics “New York City” (London, Ontario 70s punk)
FACTIODS: 1) As Derrick says in the show, Toronto used to be up there with London (UK), Berlin and New York as a 70s punk rock mecca. 2) The Forgotten Rebels did a song about immigration with lines like, “Bomb the boats and feed their fucking flesh to the fish.” It was about an overheard conversation but everyone got mad at them and said they were bad. This kind of set them on a “whatever offends you” course.
(DOA’s “WWIII” video)
DOA “Liar for Hire” (Vancouver hardcore)
SNFU “Cannibal Café” (Edmonton hardcore)
NoMeansNo “Dad” (Vancouver hardcore)
FACTIOIDS: 1) Though we concede American hardcore is where it’s at, DOA actually invented the term “hardcore.” This is confirmed by Ian Mackaye during a Nardwuar interview. 2) Nazi skinheads used to always show up at SNFU shows. Nobody’s knows why.
Leatherassbutfuk “You Can’t Rape a 0.38” (Ottawa punk)
Grammar “Data Slut” (Toronto metal)
More Canadian punk pics
(Godspeed You Black Emperor’s Aidan Girt in the pit circa 1988)
(Chugging beers with Ryan in 1986 at Stanley’s in Montreal where they never checked ID)
(Montreal punks Spam, Angie, Bumba and Arrow)
(Sid gets his hair cut at Percy Street)
(Skinheads loved the Bad Brains – weird)
(Working on zine with Spam)
(Stage dive – most of these are by Shawn Scallen btw)
(Waiting in line for punk. This picture is at least 15 years old and the dude with the sunglasses is still this punk)
(At the Rivoli in Toronto circa 1987)
(At the Beverly Tavern around the same time)