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Gavin
• 04.24.14 12:23 pm

DanaMisfits

Dana Loesch is in shit for not vilifying Cliven Bundy for saying some things about “the negro.” He posed a controversial question and instead of crucifying him, she said he’s not media savvy. How dare she?

Here’s the back story on this whole thing.

 

And here’s what he said.

“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro [as he recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas] … and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” Bundy continued. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

 It’s worth noting that he’s posing a question. It’s an interrogative. He says it’s something he wonders about. You can’t wonder anymore? Not really. The first paragraph is fine. Here’s what the second one should have said.

“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” Bundy continued. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton let alone any other kind of farm work. That’s all we got out here. We got negro abortion rates that are bordering on some kinda genocide. And how is sending a man to prison, freedom? Huh? And I’ve often wondered, if you could take the ownership out of slavery, wouldn’t they be better off picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get more freedom. They got less slavery.

At any rate, as Dana points out, this isn’t about some old guy’s views on slavery. It’s about government control. We’re not saying Bundy is the messiah and we accept him as our personal savior. We’re saying the government is wrong.

-GAVIN McINNES

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Comments
  1. VW says:

    correct me if im wrong but didnt this guy have his cows grazing on government property? Isnt that some form of government dependence? the land was not his personal property

  2. STINKY says:

    What he should have said was nothing. Instead, what he said was, wouldn’t poor blacks be better off being the privately-owned labor capital of others than living a life where they are dependent on siphoning off the federal teat? Does either situation result in an individual enjoying total freedom at the expense of personal responsibility? No. But I think that the difference between collecting EBT and being a slave is that if you try to wrest yourself from the latter, generally you were whipped to within an inch of your life or attacked by dogs or put in a hot box for a day in an effort to cool your uppity heels. So being a slave was probably a little less free than collecting gummint cheese. Glad I could help.

  3. sup? says:

    ‘not media trained’ as in ‘not secretly racist’? wonder if that ‘not media trained’ argument would have worked for rev. wright?

  4. Gordon Guano says:

    Thanks for showing me your dick, Gavin.

  5. dick lubin says:

    why does gavin give a shit about black babies being aborted? doesnt he basically believe that some races are “smarter” than others?

  6. sup? says:

    i’m sure african americans would prefer the freedom of choice over no freedom at all.

  7. Gavin says:

    “Burning fossil fuels is like slavery.”
    -Chris Hayes, editor at large for the Nation and host of his own show on MSNBC

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/376532/chris-hayes-wants-kill-about-57-billion-people-tim-cavanaugh

    Welfare is worse than slavery.
    -Republican lieutenant governor candidate E.W. Jackson, black guy

    http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/state-regional/virginia-politics/jackson-suggests-welfare-has-been-worse-than-slavery/article_257b8879-1564-5dde-928c-37713a2cd9c1.html

    Is welfare worse than slavery?
    -Cliven Bundy, worst guy ever.

  8. Hey Gavin says:

    Why do you feel the need to defend some dude’s blatant racist comments?

  9. "She asked for it" Rape comments says:

    Seriously, when are white people going to stop making abstract comments about the “positives” of slavery? You just know they are going to be well received and thoughtfully considered. Dumbass….

  10. Samwell says:

    White people live in the projects too.

  11. Emerson Biggins says:

    I’d just like to point out that the government has spent more than the tax amount Bundy owes through their shenanigans and auspicious display of force.

    The biggest mistake Bundy made in speaking was having no tact. There was no malice intended, but now liberals think they have a bona fide reason to hate this guy. What’s really weird is they seem to revel in it.

  12. […] Like everyone else, Gavin McInnes has weighed in on Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s observations on “the Negro”. Mr. McInnes concludes: […]

  13. Art of Compromise says:

    maybe this Bundy guy can get some of those Nee-groes to work for free on the land that he isn’t paying for. Win-win-win , baby!

  14. Gavin says:

    What’s with everybody’s “Fuck him, he broke the rules” talk? Were you the teacher’s pet in high school? Whatever happened to, “We want to ride our machines without being hassled by the man.” Yes Bundy broke the rules. They are stupid fucking rules.

    “Over the last two or three decades, the Bureau has squeezed the ranchers in southern Nevada by limiting the acres on which their cattle can graze, reducing the number of cattle that can be on federal land, and charging grazing fees for the ever-diminishing privilege. The effect of these restrictions has been to drive the ranchers out of business. Formerly, there were dozens of ranches in the area where Bundy operates. Now, his ranch is the only one.”

    http://www.steynonline.com/6293/how-now-white-cowman

  15. Flim says:

    If Cliven Bundy wants to use land as he pleases, he needs to own it. Otherwise, he must adhere to the landowner’s wishes. Why is that such a mystery? I live here in Nevada largely because of the BLM land. Its use is available to Nevada’s residents equally for recreation; Mr. Bundy has no more right than the rest of us. If he does not like the terms the landowner sets forth, then he should find an arrangement more suitable to him, such as… purchasing his own land. And Mr. Steyn is a fool. There is so much more to the land in question than Desert Tortoises, and his cavalier disregard for those virtues is offensive. Who owns the mountains he hikes on? Will he arm himself and fight the feds if they decide to change their management of New Hampshire’s Presidential Range? It is not his to defend, and the land Mr. Bundy postures over is not his, either.

  16. […] Like everyone else, Gavin McInnes has weighed in on Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s observations on “the Negro”. Mr McInnes concludes: […]

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  18. Emerson Biggins says:

    “If Cliven Bundy wants to use land as he pleases, he needs to own it.”

    So what happens when the government won’t sell it? It’s not hard to see what their doing by gobbling up all the land. They want to restrict who’s on it, who can use it and for whatever purpose. Private property need not apply.

    It’s idiotic to think the government is going to such great lengths to control this land so crunchy-granola types can go hiking without running into someone’s cows.

  19. Wahwah girl says:

    OK, looks like no one payed any attention to what Cliven Bundy really said. What I got from it was people are better off and happier working than receiving a federal handout.
    Even if the work is menial, work is its own reward. No one got that? No one? You all got hung up on the word negro and your ears stopped working? This man is 80 yrs old and is going by general observations he’s made over time and is also using vernacular of his time, duh! Pay attention people- anyone living on GA and EBT is already a slave. Shit, at least the slaves of yore wanted to gain their freedom, not just continue to sit on their asses, whine about it and do nothing. What Bundy was getting at was about the preservation of the family unit and striving for independence, that’s all, not about using slave labor. In my profession as a nurse, I have witnessed entire families, from children to great grandparents, enslaved to the welfare rolls. It’s a shame that an overwhelming number of people strive for less than mediocraty. There are entire talk show platforms devoted to who’s my baby’s daddy in this country, which is also pathetic. The family unit and any give a shit about it in this country is totally in the toilet. Freedom of choice does not mean choosing to sit on your ass, make a bunch of babies and have the rest of us be responsible for them- ie, adoption, juvie, prison. Do the math, the numbers don’t lie about the racial ratios in prisons. Leave this old man alone and find something constructive and productive to do.

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  22. Wahwha girl says:

    Oh yeah, just thinking about this again. Did anyone bother to download the entire interview with him OR did you “sheeple” just watch the heavily edited clips? Gotta know the whole story before you make any comments about this guy. Also, if any idiot out there thinks that this is remotely about desert tortoises, you must be joking. This shit is all over fracking rights on his land.

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  24. Facts says:

    The first picture (of crazy Occupy morons getting pepper sprayed) illustrate arguably non-violent protest. (They did takeover the park with force and then failed to disperse, but at least they didn’t threaten to murder the police.) The second picture (of crazy Tea Party/Bundy morons terrorizing the government officials off of the government’s own property) illustrates violent protest. They used guns and openly threatened to murder anyone who tried to give the public back its land.

    Also, your changes to Bundy’s quote change its meaning. One thing particularly: You say he should have said, “They didn’t get more freedom. They got less slavery.” In fact, he said “They got less freedom.” Freedom and slavery are basically opposites. He thinks they got less freedom whereas your quote implies that he meant to say they got less slavery–the opposite of what he meant to say.

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